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| Tummy upsets; do you starve or not? | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: 25 Jan 2013, 10:35 (1,238 Views) | |
| Indie chick | 25 Jan 2013, 10:35 Post #1 |
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We have a difference of opinion on this not only between myself and OH but between two of the vets at our practice. Indie pup was sick early hours of Wednesday, several times with quite a bit of it blood coloured but not fresh blood. As it was the middle of the night and I didn't think she seemed particularly unwell I waited and watched her all night. By morning she had settled down. I didn't feed her but let her have water once she had stopped being sick. I then fed her about 7 hrs later knowing she had kept water down. Now however she is having jet stream diarrhoea every couple of hours. She also had that on Wednesday but was fine all day yesterday with almost normal stools. No idea whether its something she has eaten or a tummy bug which as everyone says there are a lot of at the moment. Anyhow she is hungry and looking for food. It takes a very brave person to separate Indie pup from her food In the past for diarrhoea I've followed my own vets advice which is to carry on feeding small bland meals, he says the current view is not to let the gut empty out completely but to trickle food through. However my OH and one of the other vets we see say to starve for 24 hrs. I don't mind starving them when they are off colour, I've found in the past that my dogs tend to stop eating when they feel unwell anywell. However I do find it hard to starve them when they are pestering for food especially when you have other dogs who also want feeding. What does everyone else do? edited as swear filter did not like oozing blood. Edited by Indie chick, 25 Jan 2013, 10:37.
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| khanu | 25 Jan 2013, 10:58 Post #2 |
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I don't starve any more if they will take food either. I feed something small and easily digestible and just give them a few small meals through the day. Although if it's just been one episode I don't even bother changing what I'm feeding them and just feed as normal. I figured that unless I'm really ill I feel worse on an empty stomach, and don't see why a dog would be any different. My vet agrees and says just go with the dog - if they won't take food fine, but keep offering - at least then you know when they are feeling better! |
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| Maria | 25 Jan 2013, 11:14 Post #3 |
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We wouldn't routinely starve either, but would feed something like scrambled egg and probiotic yoghurt, and maybe use rehydration fluids if they weren't drinking (syringing if necessary) Poor Indie It could be a form of gastroentiritis, maybe see the vet (and take a sample with you)Hope she is better soon
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| doggylover | 25 Jan 2013, 11:33 Post #4 |
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My vet said starving them is old fashioned thinking now. He suggested small bland meals several times a day and probiotic tablets. |
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| Nikirooshka | 25 Jan 2013, 12:28 Post #5 |
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Nope. I feed chicken or fish and rice, warm to keep their appetite up and give their body nutrition - when they're ill is IMO when they need it the most. And by giving them meat and rice I'm also adding fluids which helps if they're not drinking much either.
Edited by Nikirooshka, 25 Jan 2013, 12:28.
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| noodlecurlymum | 25 Jan 2013, 12:46 Post #6 |
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Me too, bland chicken and rice. Where do I get the pro kaolin stuff from? Just to have for just in case, thanks. |
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| pangolin | 25 Jan 2013, 12:51 Post #7 |
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Bland, small meals here too. With the tummybug that my two had, they had moments of wanting to eat so I fed them small amounts of chicken or scrambled egg. My vet has agreed with this previously (I didn't bother taking them this time as it was apparent quite soon that it was a bug they both picked up), and I've actually had problems with Kiki in the past when she had a tummy bug, didn't eat for a cpuple of days, then really took a while to regain any appetite and kept producing lots of bile-y sick - the vet reckoned her stomach sitting empty had made it get quite acidic which was making her nauseaus, so getting into a vicious circle food/appetite/tummy wise. |
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| doggylover | 25 Jan 2013, 13:32 Post #8 |
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I use either vetuk or hyperdrug. Hyperdrug is better for quick delivery but vetuk is slightly cheaper. I always keep at least 2 tubes in stock at home.
Edited by doggylover, 25 Jan 2013, 13:33.
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| Nikirooshka | 25 Jan 2013, 14:09 Post #9 |
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Very short notice you can get it from the vets but it is a lot cheaper online (as most things are!). My kaolin powder I got from monster pet supplies but it is for firming up only, no extra goodies in it
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| Indie chick | 25 Jan 2013, 14:16 Post #10 |
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Indie pup is off to the vets later on. She looks well enough but just before she needs to go out for a poo she starts pacing and lip smacking and looking round at her tummy. Once she has been she settles down again. Don't want to risk a problem overnight or over the weekend when my vets is shut so will take to be looked at
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| Julie | 25 Jan 2013, 14:28 Post #11 |
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hope she's ok soon
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| Indie chick | 25 Jan 2013, 18:45 Post #12 |
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Madam has been to the vets. She did lots of bottom and tail wagging at everyone and rolled on her back for tummy rubs at every opportunity She has a very high temperature so had an antibiotic injection and a steroid injection and has some antibiotics and Canikur pro which I haven't used before. Just looked at its composition and its soy oil, inactivated yeast, a few other things and Enterococcus faecium. Lovely Hopefully she will settle now and we will all have a good nights sleep ETA this vet isn't a starve them one either, she agreed small bland meals are better. Edited by Indie chick, 25 Jan 2013, 18:46.
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| woofgang | 25 Jan 2013, 20:33 Post #13 |
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I have Dogs Trust helpline coverage and they say starve if vomiting but not if its just the runs and so does my vet. Poor baby...Both of mine get ulcerated bowel when the have tum upsets and pass blood and oozing blood mucus so i whip them to the vet quick smart. |
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| EAD | 25 Jan 2013, 21:18 Post #14 |
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With this lot if they just bring up a small mouthful of vomit but seem bright enough and are keen for food I would give them a little RC Sensitivity tinned food, I always keep some just in case, if they keep that down I introduce their own food within the next 24 hours. If more vomit and seem a bit down and not keen for food, i'll fast 1 meal and then introduce RC as above. I also always keep in the house Protexin Synbiotic tablets so they get one of those per day too. Dogs arent always sensible when it comes to vomiting and eating, especially when they try to eat what they just brought up Hope Indie is much improved by morning
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| Indie chick | 25 Jan 2013, 21:43 Post #15 |
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Thank you. She was not overly impressed with the canikur stuff but did eat it eventually, might try and syringe that straight in her mouth in the morning. So far so good
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| doggylover | 26 Jan 2013, 08:39 Post #16 |
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Hope this did the trick and that the little lady is much improved today
I sometimes have to resort to the straight in mouth method although if it tastes as bad as it looks I can't blame them for not wanting it. |
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| DawnT | 26 Jan 2013, 09:37 Post #17 |
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Hope she is much better this morning ![]() I have always given small meals - with her pancreatitis though if Molly is poorly she needs totally starving until she is feeling better. |
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| Indie chick | 26 Jan 2013, 10:28 Post #18 |
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Thanks she does seem much happier this morning and didn't have to go out overnight. I added the Canikur to her breakfast with a pilchard which she loves so that went down with no problem. Think she is over the worse now, just hope if it was infection rather than something she ate that the boys don't get it. |
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| gsdsian | 26 Jan 2013, 14:24 Post #19 |
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I'm coming into this a bit late. But for vomiting, particularly where they aren't keeping down food, I would starve until they are no longer vomiting and then feed small bland meals. For diarrhoea I feed light meals. The latest thinking is that starving them when they have diarrhoea makes it appear as if the diarrhoea is settling quicker (because they have nothing to pass) but doesn't settle the gut down any quicker and in fact can take the gut longer to return to normal function. I used to swear by diarsanyl paste for Rhomi. (Contains montmorillonite amongst other things). But I've been given some samples of yumpro sachets and they also work very well. Mabon has a daily yumpro tablet which is basically a probiotic (stops the windiness) and I keep the sachets for when he's eaten something he shouldn't |
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It could be a form of gastroentiritis, maybe see the vet (and take a sample with you)
hope she's ok soon
so had an antibiotic injection and a steroid injection and has some antibiotics and Canikur pro which I haven't used before. Just looked at its composition and its soy oil, inactivated yeast, a few other things and Enterococcus faecium. Lovely
although if it tastes as bad as it looks I can't blame them for not wanting it.
2:27 PM Jul 11